gc_chahiye
10-08 12:42 PM
What about people who were stuck for years in backlog and then got laid off and could not port their priority dates. I know a few who come came to US in 99 and now have a priority date of 2007 with a new employer....It should clearly be based on number of years of stay in US or expereince
having been in the US since 2001, losing out my LC/PD to the dot-com bust and finally ending up with a PD of 2006, I second that. PD should be based on number of years of experience or years of stay in the US or amount of taxes paid till now or something like that.
In any case what we WANT is very different from what we usually get from this immigration system and there are bigger more important battles for IV to fight. Look, if there is no retrogression PD almost does not matter!! THATS the right fix. END RETROGRESSION!
having been in the US since 2001, losing out my LC/PD to the dot-com bust and finally ending up with a PD of 2006, I second that. PD should be based on number of years of experience or years of stay in the US or amount of taxes paid till now or something like that.
In any case what we WANT is very different from what we usually get from this immigration system and there are bigger more important battles for IV to fight. Look, if there is no retrogression PD almost does not matter!! THATS the right fix. END RETROGRESSION!
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h1techSlave
03-08 08:10 PM
If many EB3-I folks are getting GCs then why is EB3-I PD stuck in 2001? Shouldn't it move?
I feel where you are coming from; I am also from the waited four years to get approved from filing 485 club.
btw; every person I know of from India who has gotten green from October 2008 were those eb3 guys who converted to eb2 through perm labor. I have a feeling that this is going to cause a lot of stress to eb2 as many people have been able to obtain old priority dates through eb3. Maybe not much solace but with perm labors taking 9 months to get approved now (most recent approvals were filed in July 2008) it does help India a bit. It is taking longer for eb2 ROW to get into 140/485 que and would cause more visas to be spilled over. If labors were getting approved fast then there would be less spillover in this fiscal year.
Department of State is really playing with people with their continuing change of how they are interpreting the law with regards to visa spillover. In Mid 90's I left USA (one of the reasons; not main reason was because I was told it would take about three years to get greencard; looks like a small wait compared to now).
I feel where you are coming from; I am also from the waited four years to get approved from filing 485 club.
btw; every person I know of from India who has gotten green from October 2008 were those eb3 guys who converted to eb2 through perm labor. I have a feeling that this is going to cause a lot of stress to eb2 as many people have been able to obtain old priority dates through eb3. Maybe not much solace but with perm labors taking 9 months to get approved now (most recent approvals were filed in July 2008) it does help India a bit. It is taking longer for eb2 ROW to get into 140/485 que and would cause more visas to be spilled over. If labors were getting approved fast then there would be less spillover in this fiscal year.
Department of State is really playing with people with their continuing change of how they are interpreting the law with regards to visa spillover. In Mid 90's I left USA (one of the reasons; not main reason was because I was told it would take about three years to get greencard; looks like a small wait compared to now).
zephyrr
12-16 09:02 PM
i'm glad someone brought this up, i'm in the same boat, came in 1998, applied in jul 2003 eb2.
i think it is important to get at the bottom of what is making one depressed, is it the gc necessarily, or is it not being able to do what you want to do? if it is the process itself, well - joining IV or talking to people and fighting for a cause is the way to go.
if it is not the process itself, then it is another story.
in my case, the gc process really started affecting me and became a topic of daily discussion in the family in the past 2 yrs, after i finished my mba from a top 5 school, and was unable to switch jobs because it meant starting tge process all over again. i could care less about a gc if i could do jobs that i wanted to. in your case, it might be something else, maybe career related or otherwise.
my stand is now simple, after 180 days are over in dec, i'm going to do what i want to do i.e switch jobs etc, i've applied to canada as a backup, something goes wrong, i'll leave the usa. i'm not willing to put any more of my life in a 'prison' than i already have.
you may have a different stand, but as long as you have one, and understand that the gc is nowhere as important as your mental health and well-being, you will be fine.
i think it is important to get at the bottom of what is making one depressed, is it the gc necessarily, or is it not being able to do what you want to do? if it is the process itself, well - joining IV or talking to people and fighting for a cause is the way to go.
if it is not the process itself, then it is another story.
in my case, the gc process really started affecting me and became a topic of daily discussion in the family in the past 2 yrs, after i finished my mba from a top 5 school, and was unable to switch jobs because it meant starting tge process all over again. i could care less about a gc if i could do jobs that i wanted to. in your case, it might be something else, maybe career related or otherwise.
my stand is now simple, after 180 days are over in dec, i'm going to do what i want to do i.e switch jobs etc, i've applied to canada as a backup, something goes wrong, i'll leave the usa. i'm not willing to put any more of my life in a 'prison' than i already have.
you may have a different stand, but as long as you have one, and understand that the gc is nowhere as important as your mental health and well-being, you will be fine.
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emailed below to Houston Chronicle
Dear Sir/Madam
I am one of the skilled, legal applicants affected by the recent "Flip-Flop" of visa bullentins by USIS and DOS, and we are planning to protest against this decision the USCIS in a unique and peaceful manner - by sending hundreds, if not thousands of flower bouquets to the director of USCIS, Mr. Gonzalez on July 10th.
Please refer to the attached press release for more information
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ap9x7pmvk6s_32c3khvg
More information about this initative and the current f iasco is available at http://immigrationvoice.org/
This is probably the first time when skilled, legal professionals are participating in an event like this at this scale and it goes to show the level of anxiety in the community right now. Would you be willing to write about this event ?"
If we can provide any more information, please contact me or the email address provided in the press release link.
Dear Sir/Madam
I am one of the skilled, legal applicants affected by the recent "Flip-Flop" of visa bullentins by USIS and DOS, and we are planning to protest against this decision the USCIS in a unique and peaceful manner - by sending hundreds, if not thousands of flower bouquets to the director of USCIS, Mr. Gonzalez on July 10th.
Please refer to the attached press release for more information
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ap9x7pmvk6s_32c3khvg
More information about this initative and the current f iasco is available at http://immigrationvoice.org/
This is probably the first time when skilled, legal professionals are participating in an event like this at this scale and it goes to show the level of anxiety in the community right now. Would you be willing to write about this event ?"
If we can provide any more information, please contact me or the email address provided in the press release link.
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alias
08-18 03:01 PM
[QUOTE=java4yogi;279264]After reading lots of forums contributors, my 2 cents :
a) I think the first thing is ban those people who advise separation of interests or make invidual groups in forums.
As if things happening in india are not enough to divide people on all fronts, a new separation criteria is created here on EB1/EB2/EB3. A lot of us are very creative..wow !!
QUOTE]
Yes, couldn't agree more...
a) I think the first thing is ban those people who advise separation of interests or make invidual groups in forums.
As if things happening in india are not enough to divide people on all fronts, a new separation criteria is created here on EB1/EB2/EB3. A lot of us are very creative..wow !!
QUOTE]
Yes, couldn't agree more...
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08-24 11:12 AM
Any approvals this week? Seems to be slow.. Wait continues!
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jonty_11
07-28 12:07 PM
It is great to see human nature at work. Once united and making phone calls for the 3 lofgren Bills...the same folks are mulling it out over EB2, EB3 and how most of the folks dont even deserve to be either....Interesting fodder for Anti Immi folks.....
W/o demand there is no supply or acceptance of Foriegn nationals in an alien land. Obviously there are some that abuse teh system...
But that is not the intention of IV to solve for rooting the abusers out. Its the USCIS's job to do that. Like they abolished the Subs labor process.....they may as well make EB1, 2 and 3 more restrictive they actually did make EB2 more restrictive when PERM was launched...
So lets all concentrate on what our role in this whole mess is..that is to support IV wholeheartedly...Please focus on the big picture and enjoy life!!!!!!!!!
W/o demand there is no supply or acceptance of Foriegn nationals in an alien land. Obviously there are some that abuse teh system...
But that is not the intention of IV to solve for rooting the abusers out. Its the USCIS's job to do that. Like they abolished the Subs labor process.....they may as well make EB1, 2 and 3 more restrictive they actually did make EB2 more restrictive when PERM was launched...
So lets all concentrate on what our role in this whole mess is..that is to support IV wholeheartedly...Please focus on the big picture and enjoy life!!!!!!!!!
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07-30 09:10 AM
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This is for me. For my spouse also it was filed at the same time with same RD. No update on that - Hers was a renewal vs mine was new and she needs it more than me since hers will expire soon.
No logic to any of this :mad:
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This is for me. For my spouse also it was filed at the same time with same RD. No update on that - Hers was a renewal vs mine was new and she needs it more than me since hers will expire soon.
No logic to any of this :mad:
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06-26 02:09 PM
Dear mpkmaster, it is easy to ignore facts and throw stones like "your are rasist". And it is not easy to face the reality. Since you are so smart, I would like to ask you some questions:
>>1. Why there are long immigration lines in the US, Europe, Australia, Canada, Singapore etc, and almost none for Mexico, Latin America, Middle East etc. Maybe because these countries a full of "racists" ?[/QUOTE]
To the best of my recollection, thousands of persons from Mexico are very much in line and suffer from retrogression just like everyone else. Please refer to any visa bulletin for details.
>>1. Why there are long immigration lines in the US, Europe, Australia, Canada, Singapore etc, and almost none for Mexico, Latin America, Middle East etc. Maybe because these countries a full of "racists" ?[/QUOTE]
To the best of my recollection, thousands of persons from Mexico are very much in line and suffer from retrogression just like everyone else. Please refer to any visa bulletin for details.
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07-20 10:19 AM
I pledge 200 for Aman.
and also increase my monthly contribution from 20$ to 50$.
Great going guys. Keep it coming. Yes we can for sure extend this to Monday. The more the better.
and also increase my monthly contribution from 20$ to 50$.
Great going guys. Keep it coming. Yes we can for sure extend this to Monday. The more the better.
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I am still waiting for my wife's approval. Even though we applied on same day.
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07-20 02:15 PM
looivy, Please have a conversation and don't turn this into a pissing contest.
What the other post said is very true. We have 45000 members in this board, a significant majority of them are EB3. Even if 50% of the members 22000 (as an example ) contributed 25$ each, IV would have more than half a million bucks. With this money EB backlog plight could easily come out in mainstream media. Just because you, as a person, contributed does not mean all of EB people are contributing. Realizing our problem is the first step in solving it. Problem is people are not willing to contribute to IV, either their money or time, but want issues solved. Doesn't work that way..
Again the original poster is correct in his statement.
my .02$
Correct me If I am wrong
out of 45K members let's assume 22.5 K are EB2 and 22.5 K are EB3.
Even If 11.25K (EB2)+11.25K (EB3) = 22.5 K (Total) contributes $25 Each Problems gets solved ... but the catch is ....
Even 11.25 K EB2 members are not contributing because they don't have to as their problem is solved
Even 11.25 K EB3 members are not contributing because they are not sure even with this contribution their problems gets solved.
Many people are saying that EB3 members are not contributing that's why you are lagging etc...
EB3 Members who contributed are feeling the pain because even after contribution they are not getting the results and EB2 members who didn't contributed are getting the results...
What the other post said is very true. We have 45000 members in this board, a significant majority of them are EB3. Even if 50% of the members 22000 (as an example ) contributed 25$ each, IV would have more than half a million bucks. With this money EB backlog plight could easily come out in mainstream media. Just because you, as a person, contributed does not mean all of EB people are contributing. Realizing our problem is the first step in solving it. Problem is people are not willing to contribute to IV, either their money or time, but want issues solved. Doesn't work that way..
Again the original poster is correct in his statement.
my .02$
Correct me If I am wrong
out of 45K members let's assume 22.5 K are EB2 and 22.5 K are EB3.
Even If 11.25K (EB2)+11.25K (EB3) = 22.5 K (Total) contributes $25 Each Problems gets solved ... but the catch is ....
Even 11.25 K EB2 members are not contributing because they don't have to as their problem is solved
Even 11.25 K EB3 members are not contributing because they are not sure even with this contribution their problems gets solved.
Many people are saying that EB3 members are not contributing that's why you are lagging etc...
EB3 Members who contributed are feeling the pain because even after contribution they are not getting the results and EB2 members who didn't contributed are getting the results...
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09-24 10:58 PM
"EB-2 India. This category is expected to remain unchanged or to move very slowly forward (by a week or so) in the short-term. This is mainly caused by the fact that many EB-3 India applicants (there are approximately 60,000 EB-3 India pending cases) are �porting� their priority dates into the EB-2 India category and are thus taking visa numbers.
EB2 India is slowwly becoming EB3 as thousands are porting from EB3 to EB2. Some of them are really worthy of EB2 and some of them are fradulent.
EB2 India applicants should wake up from their celebratio of a few months leap and get ready for slow movement or retro.
Guys wake up and fight to make the porting rules veryu strong if not stop porting. The rule should be if I140 for porting is denied then the applicatnt should loose his/her initial EB3 priority date also as he /she has indicated that he/she is no longer working in the position as described in EB3 labor. This will make sure that fradulent applicants cannot port from EB3 to EB2.
P.S: I know I will get thousands of REDs. I do not care... EB2 I guys wake up.. Time is running out.. EB2 I will very quickly become same as EB3I.
Mr.Sharma,
Better do not write and waste someone time. Probably you may loose your GC too if you are not united.
Try to support EB's, not EB2 or EB3. People wait for 10years to get the GC in EB3, They are well qualified and Experienced.
EB2 India is slowwly becoming EB3 as thousands are porting from EB3 to EB2. Some of them are really worthy of EB2 and some of them are fradulent.
EB2 India applicants should wake up from their celebratio of a few months leap and get ready for slow movement or retro.
Guys wake up and fight to make the porting rules veryu strong if not stop porting. The rule should be if I140 for porting is denied then the applicatnt should loose his/her initial EB3 priority date also as he /she has indicated that he/she is no longer working in the position as described in EB3 labor. This will make sure that fradulent applicants cannot port from EB3 to EB2.
P.S: I know I will get thousands of REDs. I do not care... EB2 I guys wake up.. Time is running out.. EB2 I will very quickly become same as EB3I.
Mr.Sharma,
Better do not write and waste someone time. Probably you may loose your GC too if you are not united.
Try to support EB's, not EB2 or EB3. People wait for 10years to get the GC in EB3, They are well qualified and Experienced.
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02-15 08:07 AM
Call them a lot of us did, when we got moved from one center (receipt notice) to another for processing. You should get a FP notice soon after you talked to them!
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My lawyers sent all their applications to NSC, irrespective of where I 140 was processed. In reality i dont think there was any directive from USCIS askingthem not to do so.
Anyway.. my application was also received by M Schweitzer on Augs 1st 9am.
my I140 was cleared in Texas. So far nothing.
Its good to hear July 31st people getting updates.. gives me reason to cheer!!
A
Yeah, there was no directive from USCIS where to correctly send the application. As a matter of fact, USCIS said that we can send it in any of the four Service Center and it wouldn't be rejected. This is good for us in a way because it lessen the risk of rejection but also bad because it causes delays as USCIS have to transfer some application from one Service Center to another.
Hopefully, your Receipts will come soon.
Anyway.. my application was also received by M Schweitzer on Augs 1st 9am.
my I140 was cleared in Texas. So far nothing.
Its good to hear July 31st people getting updates.. gives me reason to cheer!!
A
Yeah, there was no directive from USCIS where to correctly send the application. As a matter of fact, USCIS said that we can send it in any of the four Service Center and it wouldn't be rejected. This is good for us in a way because it lessen the risk of rejection but also bad because it causes delays as USCIS have to transfer some application from one Service Center to another.
Hopefully, your Receipts will come soon.
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manishs7
09-24 04:54 PM
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
Mr RSharama, it's 'A's ignorance of the process. He should be aware at the time of starting the Masters that GC is based on the position in the queue ( no body's gives a rat's if the person in front of you is a retard). Porting was legal in 2005 and it is now. there is no change in Law.
You can't compare porting with labor substitution. For porting, you have to go through the complete process and not just throw some dollars.
Same logic applies to people who say "I was eligible to file for EB2, but my employer/lawyer forced me to file on EB3".
It's the ignorance of process, if you are eligible for EB2 .. go join any other company.. it's America .. for God's sake..
If it doesn't suit me it's injustice.
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
Mr RSharama, it's 'A's ignorance of the process. He should be aware at the time of starting the Masters that GC is based on the position in the queue ( no body's gives a rat's if the person in front of you is a retard). Porting was legal in 2005 and it is now. there is no change in Law.
You can't compare porting with labor substitution. For porting, you have to go through the complete process and not just throw some dollars.
Same logic applies to people who say "I was eligible to file for EB2, but my employer/lawyer forced me to file on EB3".
It's the ignorance of process, if you are eligible for EB2 .. go join any other company.. it's America .. for God's sake..
If it doesn't suit me it's injustice.
english_august
07-11 01:18 AM
Is this rally still on? On 14th? Then please update the first post on this thread which still says July 7th - it is confusing.
Also, considering that there are only 4 more days to the rally if it is on 14th, we need considerably more publicity in the media and on blogs on this.
This rally will be a watershed event because as far as I know, this would be the first of its kind by skilled, legal immigrants and it should get the media attention that it deserves.
Also, considering that there are only 4 more days to the rally if it is on 14th, we need considerably more publicity in the media and on blogs on this.
This rally will be a watershed event because as far as I know, this would be the first of its kind by skilled, legal immigrants and it should get the media attention that it deserves.
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09-08 10:45 AM
Had a hard LUD on 9/5 for CPO EB3-I Jan 04 PD
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